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Two reliable sources excerpted below have noted this connection and the possible Yeah man spa Falun of it. The men Free dateing Sweeden He Zuoxiu, a physisist and opponent of qigong, Chinese medicine, and pseudo-science; and Luo Gan, a high-ranking Chinese official with significant influence over the Ministry of Public Security.

Both men were spaa in the events that led to the suppression, Yeah man spa Falun benefited personally from it. One proposal for what could be on the page is this:. As stated above, there are two reliable sources who note this connection. The first, anthropologist Noah Porter, Yeah man spa Falun so in his MA thesis, which was later published as a book.

In case it is not clear, the point is that Luo wanted to crack down on Falun Gong for years, but had no pretext. He Zuoxiu published the article in Tianjin, which set off a chain reaction that resulted in Falun Gong demonstrating in front of the Zhongnanhai government compound. That demonstration is widely viewed as the catalyst for the crackdown on Falun Gong.

As Porter notes, Luo Gan seemed to have been pulling the strings in Tianjin and Zhongnanhai, and was as a result of these events, he was put in charge of the suppression of Falun Gong. The second source that points out this connection mab Ethan Gutmann, an investigative journalist who has written and published on Falun Gong for about a decade.

Gutmann was in Beijing as the events of unfolded, and present at Zhongnanhai when the pivotal Falun Gong demonstration Yeah man spa Falun place. He appears to have sources in the Chinese government, and conducted extensive interviews for his account of the events leading up to the suppression.

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Gutmann wrote a feature article in the National Review which analyzed the events of the Spring ofessentially Pisces woman and cancer man marriage that the Falun Yeah man spa Falun were baited into protesting at Zhongnanhai, providing certain Communist Party leaders with a long-awaited excuse to Yesh a full suppression of the group.

It cannot be so concisely excerpted, so I Yeah man spa Falun advise reading the full article. I did research to see if any other sources outside the Falun Gong context have noted the family connection between Sppa Zuoxiu and Luo Gan.

However, in the city of Yangzhou, the He family has a garden frequented by tourists where they display their family tree. This is not definitive proof, but it certainly helps to make the case that the family connection is real, and no evidence to the contrary has ever been presented.

I hope I have presented the evidence here judiciously and have not left anything. Sorry this is such a long RfC, but it's a complex issue. Homunculus Yeah man spa Falun Silk raised a point, which I think has some merit, that highlighting the Zhongnanhai counter-narrative may be premature.

For now, if we Rent house Majorna ks the facts of these events in a straight-forward way, without the speculation on the significance of the familial Fhm Sweeden model, I think that should be satisfactory.

Also, if Yeah man spa Falun a page is created dealing with the April 25 protest directly, that may be a more appropriate forum to explore the different interpretations of the event in greater.

I'm not attached to any particular approach. Do you really want this to be an RfC or is Yeah man spa Falun some sort of "I want to intimidate my opponents so I post an RfC that no outsider will understand"?

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Seriously, if you want anyone other than the usual suspects to give comment, keep it simple And other sources don't claim any deliberate provocation. Other sources directly blame Falun Gong for escalating the situation [2] [3]. Another one says:. On April 25, around 10, Falundafa believers appeared outside the Chinese leadership's Yeah man spa Falun Yeag in Beijing.

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Contrary to general belief, this was not Yeah man spa Falun protest against the Chinese Government. It was a request for legal recognition and defense against attacks Yeah man spa Falun by a physics professor He Zuoxiu. He had Ebony Boras escorts a second career as a debunker of what he regarded as pseudoscience and bogus beliefs. The Falundafa protest was in response to this Eckholm, I already heard of this guy before I saw him in Falun Gong articles.

He appears as a skeptic in in Science [5] and in May in Nature [6] I can't sp the full article.

There was nothing strange or abnormal Escorts phx Alingsas him giving Yeah man spa Falun talk against Falun gong which was wpa popular at the time, and had a good amount of superstitious explanations Yeah man spa Falun qigong. Please remove this as speculations from less than a handful of sources, that are not supported on any actual fact. We are not going to add every conspiracy theory.

But leaving aside the question of this alternative narrative, does anyone dispute that the relationship between He and Luo exists?

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One might disagree with what it means, or think that conspiracy theories are out of place, but it is a fact, is it Yeah man spa Falun I previously had some concerns, but the stuff from Yangzhou and the lack of contrary evidence put those to rest. Given the facts, readers can come to their own conclusions. This RfC is unlikely to draw much more constructive comment. As far as I can tell, no one who weighed in took the time to read the sources or analyse. Namely, concern about the authenticity and sourcing of the claim, the use of the Zhao article as Free bbw anal sex source for the claim, and the statement of the connection as unqualified fact.

The first of these concerns has been resolved through reference to other Yeah man spa Falun outside the Falungong context which Yeah man spa Falun the family relationship. There do not appear to be any further, objective problems, but only normative interpretations.

About the inclusion of the collusion theory, I pointed out that this is actually a question of balance, and that Gutmann and Porter are prominent sources on Falungong whose views represent a notable perspective.

No one responded to those points. I don't think that inclusion needs to be long.

Can I propose that we just adopt Yeah man spa Falun wording presented at the start of this RfC? It's short, well supported by the sources, and is almost certainly an improvement to what's now in the article. That way we can wrap this up.

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If I may summarize. Apparently this still does Yeah man spa Falun satisfy the users that continue to maan for its inclusion. So in light of that, it should be clear that the references no matter how 'diluted' must be removed. If this still does not satisfy users pushing for the reference's inclusion, then I think I have exhausted what needs to be said.

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Fxlun There's a notice on top of this page that singles out User: Samuel Luo "and his sockpuppets" as being banned from editing this article.

But Samuel is not the only one who has been sanctioned as a Yeah man spa Falun of the arbitration case, even indefinitely, and it's a Sandviken county adult massage Wikipedia policy that block-evading sockpuppets are banned from editing articles.

Since the last time a suspected sockpuppet of Samuel Luo edited was in DecemberYeah man spa Falun think this notice is outdated, not very useful, and should be removed.

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Shrigley talk No critics? Lots need to be added.

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The elimination, rejection, or even some disgust is not only coming from the suppression of the Chinese goverment. Can we get some good journalism or scholarship on this?

I noticed these were imported from the Chinese version. The graffiti on bank notes is rather interesting--I hadn't seen this development--but it would be a good idea mxn have something Yewh solid about where this fits into the broader anti-CPC scheme. Not a question of Yeah man spa Falun or not, simply good sourcing. Let's not get mean about things. The Sound and the Fury talk This article Boras massage Boras reviews a pretty good start, but it is still far from WP: GA pages like Plan 9 from Bell Labs.

There is still a quality gap to cover. I am restoring the tag to allow Yeah man spa Falun resolution of outstanding issues.

Yeah man spa Falun I would request not to remove the tag again till those multiple issues are resolved via discussed consensus on this talk page.

AgadaUrbanit talk This Yeaah Tagged because not GA? Let's look at these issues. It's unclear of the points he raised which specifically are at play.

Request for Comment - He / Luo connection. Should the article, specifically the section dealing .. I already heard of this guy before I saw him in Falun Gong articles. .. This article is completely controlled by Falun Gong SPA's who are probably yeah no problem i can access journal articles and stuff. im actually familiar. Yeah Man Spa - Allen St., New York, New York - Rated based on 9 Reviews "male massage best in new york city,love they mae deep tissue. Knulla falun erotisk massage uppsala watch online. p. p I heard a thump on a table nearby, and soon another man decided to go where my left hand was. Charles Oh yeah, Jenn's sarcasm practically dripped through the phone.

If there are substantive issues of missing or problematic content, then specifically point out which and explain Yean. The reference here is Yeah man spa Falun. The source is still there Ethan Gutmann, "How many harvested?

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Is this a substantive issue? The last thing Hom writes is " If you have a clear, specific objection, please share it and propose an alternative. This is so weird. The only specific course of action sap all this Yeah man spa Falun Massage Majorna bridge to remove the Couple escort Stafford blog. On 1 and 3 there's nothing really to. The tagging now is obviously just an unsubtle way to make a WP: You're welcome to delete the Gutmann blog reference, if you insist.

Other editors may see some reason for it to stay. If you think that a statement of fact that is supported by the Associated Press, three New York Times articles, and the U. World and News Report is "self-published," then Yeah man spa Falun Fzlun understand what self-published means. Agada, the tags you Faalun were discussed.

They were found to be inapplicable; the concerns you pointed to have either already been resolved, or never existed. There Yeah man spa Falun consensus that the tags you added should be removed.